Case study: The effect of a LR before clubbing

It all started friday night when I exited the club i noticed i had received an unfair parking ticket. Only it wasn’t an ordinary ticket … it was half the average salary for a month in my country!!! So while I was taking pictures of the car to use as evidence in court ( no way am I gonna pay what some drunk agent wrote ) a girl stops her car and asks me what kind of idiot gave me a ticket in that situation.

She was very sociable and very open minded. She offered to drive to her house and pick up a video camera so we could film everything and use it as eveidence in court. We were vibing from the car – we had many things in common and we also built a lot of rapport in her house. I plunged into sexual conversation themes, inserting DHV spikes …but there was no sexual tension between us … it was just sexual rappot. So i just built lots of rapport. Maybe too much … because after we returned and filmed my car, she wanted to go back home alone. I convinced her to go to a club first and there I stacked the kino, hoping to get out of ljbf. We were dancing dirty and I was caressing her back thigs, even slapped her ass a few times. She still left alone ( just when about to pick out jackets, I met the HB how I’d layed a week before from the same club >:D, she kept me talking and HB camera left ).

The following day I called – again I lauched into sexual themes on the phone. She told me about how she gets aroused, about multiple orgasms and how she can achieve orgasm just by contracting her pelvic muscles. Then she told me she is shopping groceries to cook later. So I asked her what she will cook for me. She said – nothing – who am I for her to cook for me … I’ll just download the film and then we consider our business closed, and we probably will only see each other accidentally in clubs. So I asked her if she never mixes business with pleasure … and she said – no … what pleasure? I helped you with the camera, you helped me with the computer, bla bla … = LJBF!!! and not even that … it was LJFBATFO ( Let’s just finish business and then fuck off! )

In that moment i knew i had nothing to lose … I decided I would do mercyless kino with her at her house and be as sexual as I can. At her house after a little while I started dancing on the music, took her for a dirty dance, then while she was on the computer I caressed her thighs ass … she screamed … I backed off for a while. Then I knew I was running out of time. So I took her on the couch and did the Cube on her. She liked it but while explaining her the answers, she started talking about another topic ( more rapport ) … so in that moment I said to myself “Fuck I will NOT kiss this girl in a million years”. Then while she was on the phone I escalated again – I massaged her back – she complimented my strength , so I said very confidently – I cannot do this through the blouse, and tried to take it off. She refused but she pulled it up. Then she stopped me – she said it’s too intimate for her … that it’s more intimate then sex. So I said – great then – if we did this already … now we can have sex. We laughed. I pulled her chair close to mine. She said we’re too close. So I backed off. Then I tried to do the trust test … she was a bit tense (in a bad way!). So then we were talking sexually again so I started doing Style’s phase shift routine ( she passed all the phases – it gave her the chills when I bit her crease and neck ) except the last – she said ” I will not kiss you!!! If I wanted to I would have done it already. I am seeing someone.” Then I did angelsin’s ear breathing game. She didn’t want to do it at first. She got goosebumps just after a few seconds. She was very sexual. Then we did it again. I was caressing her – we did the ear respiration – she said she feels strange. I told her: no … you feel aroused. She said yes. So I asked her why are we avoiding this? We were two adults. She told me she is on her period and about the guy who she was seeing and other bullshit. So I tried to kiss her again, she swerved, but I had a clever comeback – “waaaait! you have something on your cheek”. She believed me . So then I started caressing her inner thigs while we were talking. then her pussy – she kept taking my hand from there. I told her i feel so aroused – that i can barely control myself. I went to the computer to check my email. There was a lot of sexual tension in the air. Then I told her my dick is gonna blow … do something nonsexual … show me the tour of the house. So she did and I noticed some stocking she had – I ordered her to put them on. She refused … but in the end I convinced her. While waiting for her, I knew at least she would give me a handjob ( we had to go in 30 minutes because she was meeting her boyfriend ). She came out – very sexy … she said she hopes i will be a good boy … bullshit … in a few minutes i was masturbating her from behind ( she didn’t expect it ). I was teasing her mercilessly.

LR … 3 and a half hours later I looked on my phone and the guys were telling me to go to the club. I asked her when she first though about sex. She said she really didn’t plan anything, she was unshaved on her legs and pussy … and she could not believe it we just had sex … first time she though about it was while i did the evolution phase shift and ear breathing game. She also told me: “I cannot believe you are so patient asking girls all these questions after having sex. Oh my god…you are going to learn so much and you will become so goooood in this…i haven’t met any guys like you … fuck! even I don’t have this patience … I don’t even feel the need to ask!” .

I went home … I ate … and altough I was exhausted, I went to the club. I felt so lighthearted … I felt there was nothing at stake … I was opened from the entrance by a girl ( she recognized me … that I was her 1st grade colleague! ). Then inside I was on fire. I met a girl I had been flirting with … i was kinoing her all over … slapping her ass … she was so shocked … tried to scold me … I slapped her again … I was on fire.

Then I saw HB TI-5 – she hadn’t been returning my calls after we had kissed .. I smiled to her … she came to me – I introduced her to my friends. Then started flirting with her. Kinoing … slapping her ass … she would have none of it … but I did it anyway. Then I told her: “let’s go make some friends”. So I started opening sets. I would introduce her … some people were looking like they couldn’t believe it. I was telling everyone that HB TI-5 is a flight attendant. At one point she asked me – hey but what do you do for work? I had told her before, but she forgot – I told her “nothing. I am a nobody!” and went further. But she pulled me back – she almost broke my finger. She asked me what i did for work. I then took her head and although she resisted I kissed her on the lips and told her: “this is what I do” , then pulled her hand and went further in the club. I introduced her to other sets … it was crazy. She said she cannot believe how much fun I can have. bla bla. She asked me how much I drank. I told her – nothing, because I’m driving. She could not believe it. I had just DHVed massively in her eyes .

I was dancing with several girls, spinning them – back to my group I was flirting with the other girl. We were dirty dancing. Then I took her in the club – I opened a set with her – she could not believe it. When I went alone in another “tour” my friends told me this girl was looking for me in the whole club . I ID and # closed a few girls, but most of my game was social. Girls were telling me: “I see you know everybody” … I had so much social proof! I was only dreaming about this a few years ago. Life’s good!

At one point I passed a girl, opened her … she backed off, I kept my position and motioned her to come to me … i was in such a strong frame she did. I went direct, I got a reject, then instantly her boyfriend came .. i asked him if they were together – he says yes – I laughed about it – Cool dude . I shook his hand … he was a bit tense ( like afraid ). At the end of the evening when this guy left, I was dancing with another girl. When I saw him, I smiled and saluted him. He smiled back like “Yeah … you son of a b***c!” and motioned the gunshot to me . Girls were loving me, guys were fearing me! I was loving it!

In the end, after teasing this girl a lot, we kissed, then after a while I took her on a couch in a dark spot and we made out, we kept playing but also building rapport. It was cool. I started arousing her … I put her hand on my dick and told her it’s her fault. She became a bit shy. We talked about our sexual past etc. She was half drunk, so perhaps I could have fucked her, but i was too tired after the previous nights and that evening’s marathon lay. So I just dropped her and her friend home.

I left smiling …

P.S. : Angelsin kept coming in my sets and giving me DHV spikes – he was doing a good job winging … i can say i wasn’t … because I didn’t introduce him to too many sets … I was so high on fun, that I kept my conversations with my targets … and realized this only after – that all was well tonight except my winging .

Also – I left many sets without closing and they left. But it doesn’t matter – I had huge social proof and it was awesome.

Conclusion:

->Never give up … always go the extra mile. The second day, when I went to get the movie from her I knew I was in LJBF. But I realized on my way to where she was supposed to pick me up, that my nails were a bit long in case I would end up masturbating her with the #1 White Tiger method. So I stopped by a farmacy and I boughta nail clipper, and clipped my nails. I eliminated a possible reason from my side not to have sex with her. In my mind, I kept thinking that it’s possible. A few hours later after she came with my fingers inside her she was telling me “hmmm…that was [a] new [sensation]” .

->A LR before clubbing frees your spirit and relaxes you immensely. Despite being very tired ( I was yawning before entering the club ) … I was still on fire!

Tribute to Sarging by Loverboy

I just love this video!

Phone Game

Three days ago, at the New Year’s party I met HB_smile. I #closed her and IM closed her in front of her ex BF and today I called her to build comfort. Before calling, I skimmed over the Phone Game chapter from The Magic Bullets and prepared a 4 story-outline for the call.

I started with high energy and called her smiley girl, like she had been at the party with me. Then I instantly entered a story: Let me tell you what just happened to me. Didn’t wait for permission, and started telling her the cab-line story that had just happened to me half an hour before while taking a friend to the railway station. My delivery was poor, because she didn’t have too much of a reaction, but then I transitioned into another story, about our trip from yesterday to Belgrade and left an open thread there. Then I asked her how she was. She said somthing. I told her to speak clearer ’cause I don’t understand. She told me that she entered messenger because she was bored ( good to remember for the future – to use ). I teased her: “Oh – staying online on messenger … the high-school kids’ national sport!” She confirmed. She then told me how she’s going to skip school tomorrow. I teased her about it.

At some point she asked me if I wasn’t ‘that guy – timispy’ that she had added on messenger. I admonished her telling her that she shoud say ‘that guy’ to peasants not to me. Then I negged her: “Do you always add everyone on messenger?”She justified herself that when she added she recognized my picture bla bla.  She wasn’t so sure in her story so I asked: Are you sure? Yes. Really…are you sure? … Yes! Are you sure you’re sure? She burst into laughing.

Then mentioned something about skiing. She told me she’s afraid to try to ski. Then I told her how my ex learned to ski despite feeling the same( I inserted some funny stuff in the story and she reacted well ).

Then I her some background noise. She said it was her little brother. And her mom telling him what to do. I tasked if they were in the kitchen. She said no. So I teased her – oh so you’re in your room … when your mom is used to having punishment meetings because she’s a bad girl and she’s used to being punished. I think she reacted neutrally at this one. I don’t remember exactly. Then I asked her which listens less to parents – her or her bro. She said he did. She gave as a reason that he’s trying to be slick.

So I started a Boyfriend destroyer thread, because she had told me that she still isn’t over her ex BF, which I saw at the party and really is a slick. I asked her what she understood through ’slick’. She told me, so then I irnozied the type of guy who tries to seem like a slick just to get attention … which he does just because he’s not creative and confident enough to get it otherwise. She agreed. Then I transitioned to a story about a friend and her slick boyfriend which hurt her badly. She said guys shouldn’t be like that. I told her ( cold read ) that I feel in her voice she says this from her own experience. She confirmed. Then I continued the story and told her this friend was too coward to break up with the boyfriend. HB_smile said that she was once like this too ( bingo! it means she is over that, so she’s not so crazy after her ex anymore ).

Then I felt I had stirred some negative emotions – as she told me a bit about how she suffered. I told her a loss story of mine. She felt even more emotions. Then I transitioned back to the slick thread asking her what is important fer her in a guy … to be slick ? She said no way … at the beginning it’s the looks, then it’s the character, how he treats the woman and … she doesn’t know more .. she’s only 18. I negged her about this ( maybe I shouldn’t have … ) anyway …

Then I retook the Belgrade thread – energetic and left an open thread again, promissing her I will tell her when we meet (undefined date plans). She agreed. I told her I have to go eat she said ok, no problem  … and mentioned ’sarmalutze’ from my mother and ‘chec’ from my grandma … then I started a story about granny. She laughed and then told me a story about her grandparents. I asked where they were from – she told me she and her parents are from Moldova …I was truly thirlled about this and told her I get along so well with Moldavian girls, qualified her, and then told her about my Moldavian friends and left another open thread here. She assumed I was from the town where I live now – I told her I’m not from here – she asked where from – I made her guess. She did not but I naturally changed the sunject. Then I asked what she will cook for me from the Moldavian cuisine. She answered positively. I qualified her again telling her I am amazed that I can speak with her about so many things … that we have to see each other next week. She agreed. I told her she’s great that she has and extra point from me. Then I gave her as homework to think what she will cook for me – she agreed. Then she wished me ‘Bon appetit’ – I wished her a pleasand and puffy sleep. I felt she said ‘bye’ smiling.

In Magic Bullets, Savoy recommended making 12 to 25 minutes comfort calls. I looked at my phone at the end of the convo: 24 minutes 57 seconds. Damn!

Good points: Inside humor in my first sentence, transition to story directly instead of ‘how are you?’, DHVed, did boyfriend destroyer, i made rapport about grandparents and my liking of Moldavians, I qualified her well, emotional rollercoaster (tease, fun, negative, loss, fun, rapport, compliments), gave her a ‘homework’ for next time, ended on a high note.

Bad points: Maybe I teased and negged a bit too much ( i.e.: I negged her after a qualifier that she tried to answer – what she likes in a man. )

Where i lost the set: -

Weekend Learning Material

Last night I was in the Fratelli club with a friend. I met many more there. My attitude was good and I opened several sets. When returning from the bathroom, I noticed a dark haired HB with a nice smile ( TI-19). She was dancing with her friend on a “scene”. So I go on the scene – I say hi to her – then I hesitate a bit and ask her friend if I can kidnap her friend for 2 minutes. She says: “yes, if you manage to!”. So I tell the HB that she’s interesting and I want to get to know her better. I chit-chat with her for a bit. She offers me a sip of her drink. I hesitate then take it . Her friend keeps intervening – like – “ok you had your time”. “Hey really I want to dance – get off the floor” etc. I cut her off each time (“omg is she always so impolite?” “I wasn’t talking to you – but to her!” … of course overall it was DLV because her friend did not accept me ). Anyway – I said I have to go but I want to continue the conversation. She said – you’ll find me here each Saturday. *. I asked for her email. She says she doesn’t have time. I said – it’s not a question of time but priority. She says no. So then I say – ok. I smile. “Nice meeting you anyway. My name is Timispy. ” She told me her name. She squeezed my hand laughing, while I was leaving and I was laughing too.

Good points: courage – i went in direct, asking permission from her friend (trying to befriend the obstacle ), smiling, kino, grooming.

Bad points: lean in, alienating the obstacle, not enough DHV since she did not want to give me even her email.

Where I lost the set: One reason was impeding her friend to dance. Another was contradicting the obstacle instead of befriending her.

What I can learn from this: Insist less ( maybe use “What can I do to change your mind?” – although I used it today on a different girl and it did not work” ).

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I enter a set and I IM close one girl ( TI-20). Then I hand my phone to the other. She says she doesn’t give her email in clubs. I talked more to TI-20 and introduced myself. To the other i said: “I won’t make acquaintance with you because you upset me” and laughed. Then I added – “really! This never happened to me before – a girl refusing me the E-MAIL!!! I asked you for your E-MAIL, not to marry me!” She burst into laughter! And I left smiling.

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Today at the cash-machine behind me was a cute girl (TI-21). However I hesitated and didn’t open. Then I changed my mind and after she finshed I ran after her and told her that I don’t normally do this but she seemed cute and i wanted to meet her. She said – ok – come with me at a play from 5 o’clock ( it was in a few minutes). She was acting in it and she was really in a hurry to catch the tram. I said I can’t but she can give me her email. She said she doesn’t normally do this either. I tried to talk more and make rapport with her, but she was in a hurry. I asked her how I can change her mind – she said I can’t. Then I smiled and said – ok- forget about it, nice meeting you and introduced myself and left. I ran back to the car.

Good points: courage, direct open, grooming ( I was wearing my new bomber jacket ).

Bad points: body language, I didn’t smile and EC wasn’t good during the interaction.

Where I lost the set: refusing to go with her to the play ( on the spot ).

What I would do different: Answer her line “i don’t normally do this either” with “Exactly! I don’t normally run after girls and you don’t normally give your email in public. However, since this isn’t normal, we both make exceptions “. or even: “Since I made and exception for you, I want equality in a relationship, so I expect the same from you!” ( which also implied relationship and her responsability towards me ). Also at the end I could have made deep EC, and end with “I am used to winning, but I also know how to lose”. Smile and go. I would have still lost the set, but I think I would have made a better impression .

Work Reject/CB. Ouch!

I exit the kitchen and I wanted to turn right to go to my desk. However I see a really pretty tall brunette straight upfront ( TI-18). I guessed she was waiting for someone. So I went straight on. And I saw our Office Manager – she sayy Hi to me. I say Hi, and look at the brunette. She says Hi to me, smiling. I ask the Office manager: Is she going to work with us? The brunette asks smiling: “would you want me to ( work with you )?” ( shit test ). I say – I don’t know – I don’t know you well enough . And I turn ( she had already entered the office manager office ) and ask: Should I trust you ( DLV that I returned ) and then I ask the office manager: “should I trust her”. The office manager says: “Sorry we have a business meeting here”. I say ” I know that’s why I’m not gonna keep you for long, just answer me the question”. She comes to the door and starts closing the door in my face smiling. (Something like: “Fuck off, dear, it’s not gonna work for you!” MEGA DLV!!! ) I say “I’m not playing anymore! I don’t believe you” and go. ( Much too late to recover ).

What I did right: I was bold! I approached as soon as I saw this girl – so she responded – she saluted me smiling. She even flirted with me ” would you want me to? “. + I was well groomed today at work AND trendy ( brown Columbia shirt and violet Gap sweater ).

What I did wrong: I was neeeeeeeedy. I returned to the office door to keep the conv going while my targer was already 4 feet away from me sat in a chair with her back turned, AND had the office door closed in my face. My body language was also not too goo and i had food in my teeth since I had just finished eating.

Where i lost the set: When i answered: ” I don’t know you well enough”. I should have kept her from going in the office and do a routine on her – C shaped smile or smth. After that not only I lost the set, but my value sinked below sea level

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UPDATE: I just talked to the office manager and asked her how she could do that to me. She asked me:

“Do you know TI-18?”

I say “No, I don’t… and you didn’t even let me know her! “

“Really?I thought you knew her, by the way you were hitting it with her”

“No…I didn’t”

“I thought you knew her – she works at Fratelli”.

“mmm…what does she do there?”

“I don’t know – I will look at her business card”

” Oh by the way … “

“But she’s married … you know?”

“Really? Damn! I just wanted to ask you for her card but …”

” Yeah…didn’t you see her wedding ring? … I really thought you knew her “

Random date game

Yesterday evening I went with angelsin and some of his friends to watch some Stand-Up Comedy. A perfect occasion to invite a girl out … since I don’t have to do to much talking and she would still have some laughs. So I call TI-5. Thus far I had called her two times. Yesterday we were teasing each other mercyless! I was desperately trying to get into confort with her, but she would have none of it! It was A2 and A3 all the way … a continuous ping-pong! After the phone conversation, Angelsin pointed out a very important fact: It’s with these girls that I naturally learn A2 ( teasing, C&F, push pull, etc ).

So in the evening I was expecting the ping pong to continue like crazy. But she was late, so, probably because of it, she was like a guilty cat that knew she was guilty for peeing on the living room rug. This gave me the opportunity to put her on the points system. -1 for being late. -1 for asking me for an ashtray ( because she was smoking ). +1 when she said “ok, but I won’t smoke because I don’t want to <<fumigate>> you” . At the end of the show everyone was leaving, and she wasn’t confortable because she hadn’t met my friends. I told her that if she had come on time it would have been much easier to make acquaintance with them, but when she came the show had already started.

I walked her to her car. She said she was so cold. I wrapped my arm around her. She said it’s too tight. Then she asked me about myself – we were teasing again. She asks me what I do again – I tell her I am a disposable lighter repair-man. She makes a connection with my friend’s broken lighter inside the  bar. I take my hand from around her and I give her my elbow – she took it with a hesitation. She asks me my full name – I answer bullshit. Then she says she didn’t ask me to walk her to her car. So instantly I feign I want to turn back and go in the oposite direction, but she grabs my elbow and doesn’t let me go .  So I introduce myself with my full name. She gives me her name with the middle name – and mentions the name of her grandma – we make a joke about it. So I then tell her my middle name too.

She drives me from her car to where my car was parked. She couldn’t park her car with the back, so I tought her ( I was delighted inside me that I had tought her something – I knew that teaching a girl something from the first date is gold – especially if it is something physical … which it wasn’t, but I still DHVed ).

I started my post name with the word “Random”, because what followed was random. No structure. One might say that I needed no structure – I was already in A3 … and I could only go into Comfort from there.

I start by telling her that I cannot stay long because it’s late (it was 12:10 am ). She says she cannot stay late either. Why I say it was no structure – because we were just comunicating and having fun but in no particular order.

She had asked me if I was a football fan. I asked – which type: European or American? In the end I told her I was a fan of a team from Bucharest. She said she lived in the neighbourhood of the stadium when she lived there. I found out she was in Bucharest for a year, studying to become a flight attendant. NICE! I complemented her on this. Now she moved back to Timisoara – she still wants to become a flight attendant so she’s studying tourism.

I continue the story I had started in the Stand Up Comedy bar – it was a story about my first kiss. She then told me about her first kiss.

She asks me about how I opened her – if I always open people on the street. I tease her: do you always give your number on the street? She says no, because nobody apporaches her like that on the street. Then she asks me if my sweater story is bullshit. I feign being hurt . I joke – come on – is that how much you trust me? I fake leaving the car.  She asks me why I go so soon. I say because hse heart my feelings but I laugh and I don’t go.

Then she tells me that her grandma is very close to her – that she gives good advice – better then her mom.

I ask her what’s so special about her grandma. She says she just has lots of life experience. That she talks to her about relationships and so on. So I ask her what she had said about ‘the guy who met her in the street”. She says she didn’t tell her about me and especially she didn’t tell her that she’s meeting a guy she met in the street!

She says she wouldn’t have given me her number if she had met me during the night on the street. I tell her the story of Angelsin picking up the girl in Belgrade in a dark stairway alley so I say anything is possible.

I keep mentioning angelsin who travels a lot – that we have challenges for each other and that what bonded us was our openness, curiosity to try things, to push one another, to travel, etc. ( therefore hinting that I am the same way ).

At some point we talk about sexuality. She asks me if I want to talk about it then. I say: noooooo – i was just making conversation. Then i joke that i am an inexperienced virgin and I want someone to teach me . She says – don’t joke like this – it’s not cool. So I still keep joking ( but maybe i shouldn’t have since we were in rapport! ).

Then I describe the sexual act in some cool sentences – she is a bit impressed.

I keep kinoing her during the whole evening. But at one point she keeps taking my hand when I touch her leg.

At one point i also open her cleavage a bit during a story – so she takes my hands from there . – but i show her I have guts

I tell her that I changed a lot from how I used to be. She is curious about it.

She tells me at some point that I am interesting.

I tell her that I had to get up early that day because I drove my grandma to the hospital – because she was ill ( DHV spike – protector of the loved one ).  Then she says that she didn’t sleep at all the previous night. It was already late and she told me she had to get up early the following day – so I say – Ok, Bye – and I turn and look for the door knob to exit. But she grabs my elbow and doesn’t let me .

She asks me again about my job. I tell her i don’t understand why it’s so important. So she instantly tells me : ” ok – don’t tell me. You’ll tell me next time.”

I do the trust test – I teach her what it means – she likes it. i get a lot of DHV from it because she makes a connection with what I say and it shows I read people really well ( she also finds examples from her past that match what i tell her).

We talk some more and at 0:55 she tells me at 1 she has to go. I tell her it’s the last thing I show her. I do Style’s EV ( thinking – if this doesn’t do it,  she’s not ready to be kissed ). It goes ok – but I don’t get a real reaction. But during it we play and gaze a long time in each other’s eyes ( here i realized maybe I could have gone for the kiss – but it was a playful moment so I don’t know ). Then I finish EV and I try to play with her hair – she take my hand from it – cause she says it’s dirty … (fuck) … I tell her that what I really liked about the was her laugh. She asks – the C shaped smile? i say no – when I heard your laugh in the comedy club, it felt it was such a crystal clear laugh, i liked it so much … that I felt I wanted to record it, put it on my alarm phone and wake up every morning with it. She smiles – she says – that’s so romantic!

I touch her leg while telling her something and she takes it from her leg. I was receiving another sign that she is not ready for the kiss. Fuck. So I say – ok we’ll talk. And I go towards her face at an angle that allows both a kiss and a kiss on the cheek. She comes towards me like for a kiss on the cheek. So i change my angle and go for the lips. She hesitates … but then she turns too. KCLOSE! Mmmm … she has such soft and fleshy lips … She tells me I gave her a little kiss or something. So I tell her that she’s gonna get the next on next time. Then I take her face in my hands and kiss her one more time – then i say mmm … nice …not bad. She asks me: why? did you have bad experiences with kissing – i tell her yes – but I’ll tell her next time. And I go.

I was absolutely delighted!

What I can learn from this:  Calibration. Obviously, it wasn’t  a perfect game – but  it was “good enough”.

R u prepared 4 the unexpected? :)

TI-17 has been chatting me up on messenger lately, but I wasn’t too interested in her – one evening, while chatting with her, I told her I have to go eat, and when I never returned to talk to her . Tonight she chats me up again – I tell her I caught a cold. She offers to take care of me and invites herself over and hints “she’s gonna make me sweat” . I tease her a bit before giving her my phone number.

She comes to my place – she’s half drunk already and dressed for the club – she looked sexy in black I must say, and she wants more alcohol! I ask her: are you sure? you look like you had enough! She starts flirting with me – tells me I’m cute bla bla. She says she had to go to the club but she no longer wants to. She asks me if I mind if she stays until 4 or 5 in the morning. I tell her it’s her decision . Then she asks me if I have a girlfriend. I say no, but I have to tell her something: I’ve been out of a long relationship and I’m not looking for a girlfriend. She looks at me shocked and asks what I am looking for. I say – people to have fun with. She thinks a bit and then tells me – sorry I have to go. She calls her friends to pick her up and then she tells me: sorry – but i really want a boyfriend. I say – no problem, that’s why I warned you . She smiles and goes.

So tonight I passed on almost certain sex. I did regret a bit telling her so early. Maybe I should have told her after kissing and arousing her … I acted very amateurish I can say, expecting she would stay anyway . However, I felt really well because I didn’t really care so I was just testing boundaries to see how far does a girl interested in me go, even if I hint that I just want to fuck her . I did this before, but I was never so obvious, so early about it. But it was good fun.

What I learned from this: I noticed how it feels if you don’t really care of fucking a girl or not + I learned not to be so obvious about my intentions without some seduction first.

Mall Experiment 4 Fun

This is not a FR. I did it just for fun – I was really curious how girls would react in this situation. I noticed two girls sitting at the same coffee shop as me and a friend. One was really cute ( HB8.5 ). I told my friend I want to do an experiment. I went to them, put my hands on a free chair, and asked: “Is it free?” “Yes” “Thank you!” and I faked pulling it to another table… but instead sat myself on it!!! In less then a second they screamed: “Noooooo!” So I tell them I noticed they knew each other well so I have to ask them something. I asked if they ever liked a guy that was shy to come to them even if they smiled and gave him all the indicators. So they instantly laugh ( thinking – oh he’s hitting on us ) in a bad way and say: NOOOOO! I continued: “beacuse I am exactly that type of guy!” “I am really shy talking to beautiful women like you!” and they both say: ” Yeah right!Really shy!!!” “…and I want to practice on you” “Well…you did!” “I have to ask you something: You are good friends? Because you have the same body language, body posture, etc.” “Where did you come from? What table? How could you see us? Sine when were you observing us?” etc. I try and keep my frame but it was so hard. I try and tell them about a mission that I am doing meeting people. And then one asks me if I am a missionary. I say no, I am not that much of a believer. I ask if they are realigious. I try to transition to ring finger routine. I don’t remember the whole conversation but at one point the cute girl was shit testing me like crazy!

The cute girl says this never happened to her – a guy like me to sit like that at their table. That if I would have wanted to meet them – fine, but so weird that I told them about the mission bla bla. I say I used to be very shy, and learn a lot. So she says I have to make aquaintance with her friend but now with her. I make acquaintance -My hand shivers a bit ( DLV ). She says something bad again. So I tell her – you know what – you act exactly like an ex girlfriend of mine – before she really got to know me. she says: “I bet she was ugly”. I say – coincidently she is a russian model. I take out the phone and look for pictures. The situation is getting a bit awkward – I show the pic – she says she’s ugly. Her friend says the same. Of course they were joking but acting very serious. I tell them – “Yes. She just called me from a photo shoot a few days ago in Paris”. The cute says: Ok – so we would actually match then! I say: hold on! I don’t know you that well yet. The obstacle asks me what I study. They don’t guess. The target says: “agriculture”. So I make a peasant gipsy’s voice and start talking gibberish. They laugh like crazy. They ask me if I am on drugs. I say all the time. So of course now I am too. I say I own a drug business, bla bla.

At one point the obstacle says I should return to my friend. I then ask them for feedback. They don’t give it. She says – oh I know why you came – you want to steal my phone. I say- my phone is more expensive, but yeah – i wanted a second hand phone too, so that why I’m here. At one point she repeats I should go. I say I wait for my feedback. In the end I don’t want to insist too much so I get up. I smile and go. they look to see where I sit. So i tell them not to look because I am not going to a table. I was actually going to a toilet. On my return from the toilet I mess-ID closed a girl with her mom ( just cashmere opener and open loop – and she hesitated to give her my email but she did ) and two other girls, that didn’t give me their phone numbers but i took their mess id’s and invited them to Art club the next day ( First seed – but done in a lousy way – I have to perfect this ).

Billa FRs

The previous night in Fratelli and the relative lack of success left me a bit lost and thinking …

I had to do a bit of shopping at BILLA. Since I returned from the States, every time I go to a big store like BILLA, I am aware there is a chance for PU. I don’t always respect my goal to open any girl that seems interesting to me, in any situation, but I certainly open most of them. BILLA is a proof of that. I hi5 myself for this!

FR 10:

I pass by the coffee stand. One girl ( TI-14) is not my type. The other one ( TI-15) seems cute. However, I pass by and I don’t open. I scold myself for it. So I go back and open. Cashmere sweater. They bite. Modified best-friends test. I ask them what they study. I do the Ring-Finger for one. I make my target ( Ti-15) laugh. I tell them the story how I don’t  drink cofee. I find out they are in high-shool. I ask them why they like technics. Some other girl comes to listen to my stories too, since there girls are so into me. Some AMOG comes and tries to make me look bad! He wanted to cause problems – so I talk to him but make him eject. Then I talk to the girls some more. TI-14 tells me I should come to their ball. I say I don’t usually go to high-school balls but if I’ll go with them I’ll make an exception. So I hand her the phone. She says: what for? So I can go with you to the ball. Oh noooooo – not with us bla bla – I have a boyfriend ( TI-14). So I tell her I thought she’s open bla bla. I tell I take numbers socially. Then ask if she has email. She says – ah – that – Ok. So I take the ids from TI-14 and Ti-15. Then I take it from TI-16 too ( the girl that came to listen) – saying: I don’t discriminate .

Good: Confidence, Body rocking, time constraint, good opener delivery, hook, mess close

Bad: Insisted a bit on the number, I didn’t do enough qualifying, although I tried

Where I lost the set -

UPDATE: My obstacle ( TI-14) opens me on messenger ( because of a joke I made when I added her ). We almost ended up fighting on messenger! The line that defines the whole interaction is her remark: I thought you are a guy who reads people well but I guess I was wrong. You were totally changed from the fun guy you were yesterday. Today you were much more flegmatic … CONCLUSION: No routines, No more fun!

To improve: To have a fun and non-conflictual follow-up conversation on messenger, after I take their mess ID. ( This happened to me before! )

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FR 11:

When I exit I see a blonde ( TI-17 ) that looked good from the side and back. So I run after her. I open her directly. She’s not really what I thought she was. We chat a bit. I do C vs Us ( although she had bad teeth. yuck! ). She’s a journalist for Realitatea. I open loop with ring finger and tell her i’m in a hurry so I mess-close her.

Good: Opened, direct, hooked, some qualifying, closed

Bad: Eye contact could have been better – but overall a good set ( however, great expectations, and I was dissapointed when I saw her upfront ).

Where I lost the set: -

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FR 12 – not connected to BILLA but I won’t have a separate post just for this: I was walking to the gym yesterday, and in the last moment I saw a girl with beautiful green eyes and cute face ( Ti-18). The body was ok and she had decent clothes. I was about to avoid a big puddle of water, but I instantly swerved to the side, and motioned her like a servant: somethin like: “please mylady”. Just when she was about to pass me, I open her. Cashmere sweater. then I ask if she’s hungarian because of the accent. She confirms. Time constraint. Shortened Cs vs Us, eye contact, Then open loop with ring finger routine. Perfect reason for her to give me her mess id. While closing I ask her what she studies. She finished computer science last year. So I do a commonality with her on this. Then I say I have to go but we-ll talk. End.

Good: DHV ( chivalry) + good open – eye contact + pulled her from the middle of the sidewalk to the side – so people could pass + open loop + some commonalities + close

Bad: It was a bit awkward that we were in the middle of the sidewalk, blocking the way. A SHB would have instantly realised I was hitting on her.

Where I lost the set: -

Fratelli Lessons

I won’t mention all my sets – but there are two that I want to concentrate on. At the end, just before leaving, I opened 2 HBs directly.

FR 8: TI-12 ( 27 year-old superb blonde ) just rejoined her group ( I had seen her with a guy before, but I didn’t care: I was about to leave). I went to her and told her I find her interesting and I want to see if twhat characterizes her is more  than what I can see with my eyesk. She said she thinked her boyfriend wouldn’t like that. I tell her – did I ask you what your boyfriend thinks ? I asked you what you think. Then I tell her: honestly do you say that just to get rid of guys who try to talk to you. She looked at me and said: honestly, most of the time, yes. Then a guy came and put her hand on her, and sat there staring at me. So I said: Hi to him, smiled, and left  .

Good points: I opened a very good looking girl, direct style. I was well groomed. I showed social intuition telling her that’s what she probably tells guys to get rid of them.

Bad points: I didn’t show a lot of confidence on the opener ( I was searching for my words ). I opened from behind, leaned in ( very loud music ). The fact that she said that normally she says that to get rid of the guys can be a DLV ( suggesting I am included in that category).

Where I lost the set: When the guy came. Practically when she mentioned her BF.

What I can do different: When she mentions the boyfriend to playfully say: we have barely met and you already tell me your problems?. Or perhaps say playfully (smiling): “Ok, let’s skip over this. 3 of my ex-girlfriends told me the same when I met them  “

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FR 9

I had told angelsin earlier: I think I just saw the brunette of my dreams ( TI-13). Just before I left, I went to her and asked her: “Can I kidnap you from your friends for 2 mintues?” “Yes” “Ok. I saw you while I was talking to my friend, I thought you were interesting so I want to know you better”. Then her friends told her they ar going. She said – sorry I have to go. So I tell her to give me her email. She said that she cannot do that. So I said: “Ok, what can I do to change that decision?” “Nothing”.”Ok, Pleasure meeting you anyway”.

Good things: Open – direct. Did not insist with the email but tried “What can I do to change that?” – which is something new for me  . I did some eye contact ( but not seductive … more like needy  ).

Bad things: Body language. No attraction, so, of course no contact – especially from a SHB, despite my good grooming.

Where I lost the set: when I hit on her and her friends said they have to go.