Work Reject/CB. Ouch!

November 23, 2009 by timispy

I exit the kitchen and I wanted to turn right to go to my desk. However I see a really pretty tall brunette straight upfront ( TI-18). I guessed she was waiting for someone. So I went straight on. And I saw our Office Manager – she sayy Hi to me. I say Hi, and look at the brunette. She says Hi to me, smiling. I ask the Office manager: Is she going to work with us? The brunette asks smiling: “would you want me to ( work with you )?” ( shit test :) ). I say – I don’t know – I don’t know you well enough :) . And I turn ( she had already entered the office manager office ) and ask: Should I trust you ( DLV that I returned ) and then I ask the office manager: “should I trust her”. The office manager says: “Sorry we have a business meeting here”. I say ” I know that’s why I’m not gonna keep you for long, just answer me the question”. She comes to the door and starts closing the door in my face smiling. (Something like: “Fuck off, dear, it’s not gonna work for you!” MEGA DLV!!! ) I say “I’m not playing anymore! I don’t believe you” and go. ( Much too late to recover ).

What I did right: I was bold! I approached as soon as I saw this girl – so she responded – she saluted me smiling. She even flirted with me ” would you want me to? “. + I was well groomed today at work AND trendy ( brown Columbia shirt and violet Gap sweater ).

What I did wrong: I was neeeeeeeedy. I returned to the office door to keep the conv going while my targer was already 4 feet away from me sat in a chair with her back turned, AND had the office door closed in my face. My body language was also not too goo and i had food in my teeth since I had just finished eating.

Where i lost the set: When i answered: ” I don’t know you well enough”. I should have kept her from going in the office and do a routine on her – C shaped smile or smth. After that not only I lost the set, but my value sinked below sea level :)

UPDATE: I just talked to the office manager and asked her how she could do that to me. She asked me:

“Do you know TI-18?”

I say “No, I don’t… and you didn’t even let me know her! :P

“Really?I thought you knew her, by the way you were hitting it with her”

“No…I didn’t”

“I thought you knew her – she works at Fratelli”.

“mmm…what does she do there?”

“I don’t know – I will look at her business card”

” Oh by the way … “

“But she’s married … you know?”

“Really? :) Damn! I just wanted to ask you for her card but …”

” Yeah…didn’t you see her wedding ring? … I really thought you knew her :)

Random date game

October 28, 2009 by timispy

Yesterday evening I went with angelsin and some of his friends to watch some Stand-Up Comedy. A perfect occasion to invite a girl out … since I don’t have to do to much talking and she would still have some laughs. So I call TI-5. Thus far I had called her two times. Yesterday we were teasing each other mercyless! I was desperately trying to get into confort with her, but she would have none of it! It was A2 and A3 all the way … a continuous ping-pong! After the phone conversation, Angelsin pointed out a very important fact: It’s with these girls that I naturally learn A2 ( teasing, C&F, push pull, etc ).

So in the evening I was expecting the ping pong to continue like crazy. But she was late, so, probably because of it, she was like a guilty cat that knew she was guilty for peeing on the living room rug. This gave me the opportunity to put her on the points system. -1 for being late. -1 for asking me for an ashtray ( because she was smoking ). +1 when she said “ok, but I won’t smoke because I don’t want to <<fumigate>> you” :) . At the end of the show everyone was leaving, and she wasn’t confortable because she hadn’t met my friends. I told her that if she had come on time it would have been much easier to make acquaintance with them, but when she came the show had already started.

I walked her to her car. She said she was so cold. I wrapped my arm around her. She said it’s too tight. Then she asked me about myself – we were teasing again. She asks me what I do again – I tell her I am a disposable lighter repair-man. She makes a connection with my friend’s broken lighter inside the  bar. I take my hand from around her and I give her my elbow – she took it with a hesitation. She asks me my full name – I answer bullshit. Then she says she didn’t ask me to walk her to her car. So instantly I feign I want to turn back and go in the oposite direction, but she grabs my elbow and doesn’t let me go :) .  So I introduce myself with my full name. She gives me her name with the middle name – and mentions the name of her grandma – we make a joke about it. So I then tell her my middle name too.

She drives me from her car to where my car was parked. She couldn’t park her car with the back, so I tought her ( I was delighted inside me that I had tought her something – I knew that teaching a girl something from the first date is gold – especially if it is something physical … which it wasn’t, but I still DHVed ).

I started my post name with the word “Random”, because what followed was random. No structure. One might say that I needed no structure – I was already in A3 … and I could only go into Comfort from there.

I start by telling her that I cannot stay long because it’s late (it was 12:10 am ). She says she cannot stay late either. Why I say it was no structure – because we were just comunicating and having fun but in no particular order.

She had asked me if I was a football fan. I asked – which type: European or American? In the end I told her I was a fan of a team from Bucharest. She said she lived in the neighbourhood of the stadium when she lived there. I found out she was in Bucharest for a year, studying to become a flight attendant. NICE! I complemented her on this. Now she moved back to Timisoara – she still wants to become a flight attendant so she’s studying tourism.

I continue the story I had started in the Stand Up Comedy bar – it was a story about my first kiss. She then told me about her first kiss.

She asks me about how I opened her – if I always open people on the street. I tease her: do you always give your number on the street? She says no, because nobody apporaches her like that on the street. Then she asks me if my sweater story is bullshit. I feign being hurt :) . I joke – come on – is that how much you trust me? I fake leaving the car.  She asks me why I go so soon. I say because hse heart my feelings but I laugh and I don’t go.

Then she tells me that her grandma is very close to her – that she gives good advice – better then her mom.

I ask her what’s so special about her grandma. She says she just has lots of life experience. That she talks to her about relationships and so on. So I ask her what she had said about ‘the guy who met her in the street”. She says she didn’t tell her about me and especially she didn’t tell her that she’s meeting a guy she met in the street! :)

She says she wouldn’t have given me her number if she had met me during the night on the street. I tell her the story of Angelsin picking up the girl in Belgrade in a dark stairway alley so I say anything is possible. :)

I keep mentioning angelsin who travels a lot – that we have challenges for each other and that what bonded us was our openness, curiosity to try things, to push one another, to travel, etc. ( therefore hinting that I am the same way ).

At some point we talk about sexuality. She asks me if I want to talk about it then. I say: noooooo – i was just making conversation. Then i joke that i am an inexperienced virgin and I want someone to teach me :) . She says – don’t joke like this – it’s not cool. So I still keep joking ( but maybe i shouldn’t have since we were in rapport! ).

Then I describe the sexual act in some cool sentences – she is a bit impressed.

I keep kinoing her during the whole evening. But at one point she keeps taking my hand when I touch her leg.

At one point i also open her cleavage a bit during a story – so she takes my hands from there :) . – but i show her I have guts :)

I tell her that I changed a lot from how I used to be. She is curious about it.

She tells me at some point that I am interesting.

I tell her that I had to get up early that day because I drove my grandma to the hospital – because she was ill ( DHV spike – protector of the loved one ).  Then she says that she didn’t sleep at all the previous night. It was already late and she told me she had to get up early the following day – so I say – Ok, Bye – and I turn and look for the door knob to exit. But she grabs my elbow and doesn’t let me :) .

She asks me again about my job. I tell her i don’t understand why it’s so important. So she instantly tells me : ” ok – don’t tell me. You’ll tell me next time.”

I do the trust test – I teach her what it means – she likes it. i get a lot of DHV from it because she makes a connection with what I say and it shows I read people really well ( she also finds examples from her past that match what i tell her).

We talk some more and at 0:55 she tells me at 1 she has to go. I tell her it’s the last thing I show her. I do Style’s EV ( thinking – if this doesn’t do it,  she’s not ready to be kissed ). It goes ok – but I don’t get a real reaction. But during it we play and gaze a long time in each other’s eyes ( here i realized maybe I could have gone for the kiss – but it was a playful moment so I don’t know ). Then I finish EV and I try to play with her hair – she take my hand from it – cause she says it’s dirty … (fuck) … I tell her that what I really liked about the was her laugh. She asks – the C shaped smile? i say no – when I heard your laugh in the comedy club, it felt it was such a crystal clear laugh, i liked it so much … that I felt I wanted to record it, put it on my alarm phone and wake up every morning with it. She smiles – she says – that’s so romantic!

I touch her leg while telling her something and she takes it from her leg. I was receiving another sign that she is not ready for the kiss. Fuck. So I say – ok we’ll talk. And I go towards her face at an angle that allows both a kiss and a kiss on the cheek. She comes towards me like for a kiss on the cheek. So i change my angle and go for the lips. She hesitates … but then she turns too. KCLOSE! Mmmm … she has such soft and fleshy lips … She tells me I gave her a little kiss or something. So I tell her that she’s gonna get the next on next time. Then I take her face in my hands and kiss her one more time – then i say mmm … nice …not bad. She asks me: why? did you have bad experiences with kissing – i tell her yes – but I’ll tell her next time. And I go.

I was absolutely delighted!

What I can learn from this:  Calibration. Obviously, it wasn’t  a perfect game – but  it was “good enough”.

R u prepared 4 the unexpected? :)

October 24, 2009 by timispy

TI-17 has been chatting me up on messenger lately, but I wasn’t too interested in her – one evening, while chatting with her, I told her I have to go eat, and when I never returned to talk to her :) . Tonight she chats me up again – I tell her I caught a cold. She offers to take care of me and invites herself over and hints “she’s gonna make me sweat” :) . I tease her a bit before giving her my phone number.

She comes to my place – she’s half drunk already and dressed for the club – she looked sexy in black I must say, and she wants more alcohol! I ask her: are you sure? you look like you had enough! She starts flirting with me – tells me I’m cute bla bla. She says she had to go to the club but she no longer wants to. She asks me if I mind if she stays until 4 or 5 in the morning. I tell her it’s her decision :) . Then she asks me if I have a girlfriend. I say no, but I have to tell her something: I’ve been out of a long relationship and I’m not looking for a girlfriend. She looks at me shocked and asks what I am looking for. I say – people to have fun with. She thinks a bit and then tells me – sorry I have to go. She calls her friends to pick her up and then she tells me: sorry – but i really want a boyfriend. I say – no problem, that’s why I warned you :) . She smiles and goes.

So tonight I passed on almost certain sex. I did regret a bit telling her so early. Maybe I should have told her after kissing and arousing her … :) I acted very amateurish I can say, expecting she would stay anyway :) . However, I felt really well because I didn’t really care so I was just testing boundaries to see how far does a girl interested in me go, even if I hint that I just want to fuck her :) . I did this before, but I was never so obvious, so early about it. But it was good fun.

What I learned from this: I noticed how it feels if you don’t really care of fucking a girl or not + I learned not to be so obvious about my intentions without some seduction first.

Mall Experiment 4 Fun

October 21, 2009 by timispy

This is not a FR. I did it just for fun – I was really curious how girls would react in this situation. I noticed two girls sitting at the same coffee shop as me and a friend. One was really cute ( HB8.5 ). I told my friend I want to do an experiment. I went to them, put my hands on a free chair, and asked: “Is it free?” “Yes” “Thank you!” and I faked pulling it to another table… but instead sat myself on it!!! In less then a second they screamed: “Noooooo!” :) So I tell them I noticed they knew each other well so I have to ask them something. I asked if they ever liked a guy that was shy to come to them even if they smiled and gave him all the indicators. So they instantly laugh ( thinking – oh he’s hitting on us ) in a bad way and say: NOOOOO! I continued: “beacuse I am exactly that type of guy!” “I am really shy talking to beautiful women like you!” and they both say: ” Yeah right!Really shy!!!” “…and I want to practice on you” “Well…you did!” “I have to ask you something: You are good friends? Because you have the same body language, body posture, etc.” “Where did you come from? What table? How could you see us? Sine when were you observing us?” etc. I try and keep my frame but it was so hard. I try and tell them about a mission that I am doing meeting people. And then one asks me if I am a missionary. I say no, I am not that much of a believer. I ask if they are realigious. I try to transition to ring finger routine. I don’t remember the whole conversation but at one point the cute girl was shit testing me like crazy!

The cute girl says this never happened to her – a guy like me to sit like that at their table. That if I would have wanted to meet them – fine, but so weird that I told them about the mission bla bla. I say I used to be very shy, and learn a lot. So she says I have to make aquaintance with her friend but now with her. I make acquaintance -My hand shivers a bit ( DLV ). She says something bad again. So I tell her – you know what – you act exactly like an ex girlfriend of mine – before she really got to know me. she says: “I bet she was ugly”. I say – coincidently she is a russian model. I take out the phone and look for pictures. The situation is getting a bit awkward – I show the pic – she says she’s ugly. Her friend says the same. Of course they were joking but acting very serious. I tell them – “Yes. She just called me from a photo shoot a few days ago in Paris”. The cute says: Ok – so we would actually match then! I say: hold on! I don’t know you that well yet. The obstacle asks me what I study. They don’t guess. The target says: “agriculture”. So I make a peasant gipsy’s voice and start talking gibberish. They laugh like crazy. They ask me if I am on drugs. I say all the time. So of course now I am too. I say I own a drug business, bla bla.

At one point the obstacle says I should return to my friend. I then ask them for feedback. They don’t give it. She says – oh I know why you came – you want to steal my phone. I say- my phone is more expensive, but yeah – i wanted a second hand phone too, so that why I’m here. At one point she repeats I should go. I say I wait for my feedback. In the end I don’t want to insist too much so I get up. I smile and go. they look to see where I sit. So i tell them not to look because I am not going to a table. I was actually going to a toilet. On my return from the toilet I mess-ID closed a girl with her mom ( just cashmere opener and open loop – and she hesitated to give her my email but she did ) and two other girls, that didn’t give me their phone numbers but i took their mess id’s and invited them to Art club the next day ( First seed – but done in a lousy way – I have to perfect this ).

Billa FRs

October 20, 2009 by timispy

The previous night in Fratelli and the relative lack of success left me a bit lost and thinking …

I had to do a bit of shopping at BILLA. Since I returned from the States, every time I go to a big store like BILLA, I am aware there is a chance for PU. I don’t always respect my goal to open any girl that seems interesting to me, in any situation, but I certainly open most of them. BILLA is a proof of that. I hi5 myself for this! :)

FR 10:

I pass by the coffee stand. One girl ( TI-14) is not my type. The other one ( TI-15) seems cute. However, I pass by and I don’t open. I scold myself for it. So I go back and open. Cashmere sweater. They bite. Modified best-friends test. I ask them what they study. I do the Ring-Finger for one. I make my target ( Ti-15) laugh. I tell them the story how I don’t  drink cofee. I find out they are in high-shool. I ask them why they like technics. Some other girl comes to listen to my stories too, since there girls are so into me. Some AMOG comes and tries to make me look bad! He wanted to cause problems – so I talk to him but make him eject. Then I talk to the girls some more. TI-14 tells me I should come to their ball. I say I don’t usually go to high-school balls but if I’ll go with them I’ll make an exception. So I hand her the phone. She says: what for? So I can go with you to the ball. Oh noooooo – not with us bla bla – I have a boyfriend ( TI-14). So I tell her I thought she’s open bla bla. I tell I take numbers socially. Then ask if she has email. She says – ah – that – Ok. So I take the ids from TI-14 and Ti-15. Then I take it from TI-16 too ( the girl that came to listen) – saying: I don’t discriminate :) .

Good: Confidence, Body rocking, time constraint, good opener delivery, hook, mess close

Bad: Insisted a bit on the number, I didn’t do enough qualifying, although I tried

Where I lost the set -

UPDATE: My obstacle ( TI-14) opens me on messenger ( because of a joke I made when I added her ). We almost ended up fighting on messenger! The line that defines the whole interaction is her remark: I thought you are a guy who reads people well but I guess I was wrong. You were totally changed from the fun guy you were yesterday. Today you were much more flegmatic … CONCLUSION: No routines, No more fun!

To improve: To have a fun and non-conflictual follow-up conversation on messenger, after I take their mess ID. ( This happened to me before! )

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FR 11:

When I exit I see a blonde ( TI-17 ) that looked good from the side and back. So I run after her. I open her directly. She’s not really what I thought she was. We chat a bit. I do C vs Us ( although she had bad teeth. yuck! ). She’s a journalist for Realitatea. I open loop with ring finger and tell her i’m in a hurry so I mess-close her.

Good: Opened, direct, hooked, some qualifying, closed

Bad: Eye contact could have been better – but overall a good set ( however, great expectations, and I was dissapointed when I saw her upfront ).

Where I lost the set: -

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FR 12 – not connected to BILLA but I won’t have a separate post just for this: I was walking to the gym yesterday, and in the last moment I saw a girl with beautiful green eyes and cute face ( Ti-18). The body was ok and she had decent clothes. I was about to avoid a big puddle of water, but I instantly swerved to the side, and motioned her like a servant: somethin like: “please mylady”. Just when she was about to pass me, I open her. Cashmere sweater. then I ask if she’s hungarian because of the accent. She confirms. Time constraint. Shortened Cs vs Us, eye contact, Then open loop with ring finger routine. Perfect reason for her to give me her mess id. While closing I ask her what she studies. She finished computer science last year. So I do a commonality with her on this. Then I say I have to go but we-ll talk. End.

Good: DHV ( chivalry) + good open – eye contact + pulled her from the middle of the sidewalk to the side – so people could pass + open loop + some commonalities + close

Bad: It was a bit awkward that we were in the middle of the sidewalk, blocking the way. A SHB would have instantly realised I was hitting on her.

Where I lost the set: -


Fratelli Lessons

October 20, 2009 by timispy

I won’t mention all my sets – but there are two that I want to concentrate on. At the end, just before leaving, I opened 2 HBs directly.

FR 8: TI-12 ( 27 year-old superb blonde ) just rejoined her group ( I had seen her with a guy before, but I didn’t care: I was about to leave). I went to her and told her I find her interesting and I want to see if twhat characterizes her is more  than what I can see with my eyesk. She said she thinked her boyfriend wouldn’t like that. I tell her – did I ask you what your boyfriend thinks ? I asked you what you think. Then I tell her: honestly do you say that just to get rid of guys who try to talk to you. She looked at me and said: honestly, most of the time, yes. Then a guy came and put her hand on her, and sat there staring at me. So I said: Hi to him, smiled, and left :) .

Good points: I opened a very good looking girl, direct style. I was well groomed. I showed social intuition telling her that’s what she probably tells guys to get rid of them.

Bad points: I didn’t show a lot of confidence on the opener ( I was searching for my words ). I opened from behind, leaned in ( very loud music ). The fact that she said that normally she says that to get rid of the guys can be a DLV ( suggesting I am included in that category).

Where I lost the set: When the guy came. Practically when she mentioned her BF.

What I can do different: When she mentions the boyfriend to playfully say: we have barely met and you already tell me your problems?. Or perhaps say playfully (smiling): “Ok, let’s skip over this. 3 of my ex-girlfriends told me the same when I met them :)

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FR 9

I had told angelsin earlier: I think I just saw the brunette of my dreams ( TI-13). Just before I left, I went to her and asked her: “Can I kidnap you from your friends for 2 mintues?” “Yes” “Ok. I saw you while I was talking to my friend, I thought you were interesting so I want to know you better”. Then her friends told her they ar going. She said – sorry I have to go. So I tell her to give me her email. She said that she cannot do that. So I said: “Ok, what can I do to change that decision?” “Nothing”.”Ok, Pleasure meeting you anyway”.

Good things: Open – direct. Did not insist with the email but tried “What can I do to change that?” – which is something new for me :) . I did some eye contact ( but not seductive … more like needy :) ).

Bad things: Body language. No attraction, so, of course no contact – especially from a SHB, despite my good grooming.

Where I lost the set: when I hit on her and her friends said they have to go.

Students FRs

October 2, 2009 by timispy

FR 4: While talking to angelsin when I park the car at work, I see a blonde that looks interesting ( TI-6 ). I don’t usually do this but I go after her. When I reach her, I tell her I say Hi. This might be strange but I saw her in the car and I wanted to know her. She introduced herself. I ask her if she was a student. I think I mentined I am nervous. I told her I cannot stay long because someone’s waiting for me but I want to continue the conversation with her anohter time. She tells me: “Dear, I am soon going to get married” I tell her some women wear rings on that finger just to scare others away. She says it’s not the case.

Good points: I went for it (direct).

Bad points: No DHV, No structure, No EC, Didn’t congratulate her.

Where I lost the set:  Transitioned to close too fast. She was married anyway :)

FR 5: I see a curly haired girl – pretty cute ( TI-7 ),  so I tell her Hi, I don’t really do this, but you seemed interesting and I wanted to get to know you or I would have kicked myself. She tells me her name. I don’t EC. Then she tells me her name – I ask her about her name. Then I tell her I’m in a hurry and I want to continue this conversation. She doesn’t want to. i ask her what she has to lose. She doesn’t want. I did body rock when I sensed I was about to lose her but it was too late.

Good points: I went in, direct style.

Bad points: Eye contact, body language, no DHV, no structure.

Where i lost the set - where i asked to meet her again.

What I can improve: I should have a structure for direct and one for indirect. Also, when they shake my hand I shoul look deep into their eyes.

FR 6: Just as I approach the gym parking, I see a tall brunette in blue jeans costume ( TI-8 ). Her face wasn’t perfect, but she was cute. Her body was really nice – that’s why as soon as I parked my car, I took my jacket and went after her. However, I didn’t manage to dress properly – I had to stop, and by the time I looked again for her she was gone! So I just went in the direction I thought she went. Then I see a 2-set and one girl was really cute ( TI-9 ). I open them – cashemere sweater opener. Time constraint – I have to meet some people. She asks “where?” I say – there – It’s a … group of Soccer Fans ( I was pointing towards the stadium ). Do you know? She is cute but her teeth are not well taken care of. Her body is slim and curvy but she’s probably a Pitzi. I ask her if she’s from Timi and she says no. I thought sh’s Moldavian, by accent – she says she is from Oltenia. So I ask her where in Oltenia. She says: ” Strehaia”. That’s in my county. I tell her. I then do a modified version of the best friends test and i do some kino and ec. I time constraint again – tell her that i have to go, but I want to continue the conversation with her. She says maybe we’ll meet again. I say I never leave things to chance. I chat her more. She studies journalism. I ask her some more questions. At the end I tell her that i want to continue this conversation. How can we do it? She asks me why? I say I don’t meet every day a girl as open and cute as her. She gives me her mess id but she tells me she never gives her number on the street. I say I never ask :) . Then she says something with the Simple Past Tense so I neg her – oh “facui” “fusei” – she’s where I’m from – definitely! We part company.

Good: Kept frame, chit-chatted after first refusal and closed, some EC, some structure.

Bad: I ignored her friend except for the best friends test, I also jumped through one of her loops -when she asked me what I was doing here suspiciously. i could have been funny about it.

Where I lost the set: -

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FR 7: On my way back, I see a girl – I think perhaps I should open. Then I realize I don’t really like her. Then in the last moment I see her blue eyes and I open her ( TI – 10 ). Confident – cashmere sweater. She gives me an opinion. Slightly bad transition – I then do Ring Finger Routine. Deep eye contact and some kino. She likes it. Then I ask her some questions. – She studies foriegn languages. I gave myself 3 or 4 time constraints ( it seemed like I was REALLY in a hurry – so I exagerated with that). I tell her that i want to continue the conv. She gives me her mess id. I ask her what origin her name was – she says Hungarian. Then I tell her a quick story with DHV spikes about Hungary. Then I say – give me your number too – it’s easier to communicate. She does. Then I tell her she’s now gonna be mu Hungarian teacher. I ask her about clubs. She says she only goes to Hungary in clubs. I say – OMG me and Angelsin – who were in Belgrade this weekend plan to go to Hungarian clubs in Budapest. Now she can show us around. Then she says she only goes to house clubs. I say – now that’s too much – house is my favorite music. Now i can’t even talk to her anymore. I don’t know what she says more because i say: really – I cannot talk anymore – I’m starting to like you. And I go because I was in SUCH a hurry :) .

Good points: I rememeberd in set about body language so i straghtened it a few times. Intense EC on the ring finger routine. # closed. found good commonalities. some kino. confidence when I opened – i was in frame. I followed some structure.

Bad points: I should have given myslef less time constraints. The last phrase was useless – ” I’m starting to like you” – why show this so early?

Where I lost the set: -

Street FRs

October 1, 2009 by timispy

FR 2: I exit work. I look behind – no sets approaching. I look in front – I see a curly haired girl. ( TI-4). She’s a bit short and her legs are not really straight, but I decide to open her anyway. I hurry to catch her before the traffic light. I have big AA, but control a part of it. I pass by her and then open from the shoulder. She’s cute- she has beautiful blue-green eyes but her teeth are not perfect. Cashmere sweater opener. I have in set anxiety while I deliver it – I laugh to try to mask it. She gives me her opinion – I do a time constraint then a cold read ( she had no rigns and her smile wasn’t suited for C vs U ). I ask her what she studies. She tells me accounting. She tells me she’s in her 2nd year. I neg her ( which i didn’t really intend and perhaps i shouldn’t have ). I then tell her I have to go again and she says ok, bye bye. So I make 2 feet and then turn i want to continue this conversation – do you have email? She says “Yes”. I hand her the phone. She gives me her Messenger ID. I ask her if she likes clubs – she says she doesn’t. I had tried to seed it to go to a club with friends.

Good things: I forced myself and opened, I kept the set, I followed some structure, I closed, Dressing was DHV ( shirt, quality jacket )

Bad things: Big approach anxiety, Body language, Eye contact ( although I did some- but not enough ), Didn’t follow structure, didn’t close smoothly ( how can we continue this conversation? )

Where I lost the set: -

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FR 3: As I park my car close to the GYM, I see a cute HB Blonde passing on the sidewalk ( TI-5 ). I instantly decide to open. I exit the car ( DHV because of the car + DHV because I was wearing a shirt + DLV because I wasn’t freshly shaved and because my hairstyle was good but not great ). Cashmere sweater opener. While I deliver I feel in set anxiety – which almost shows – I laugh for diversion. She gives me her opinion. I do a bit of kino. I cold read her and ask what she studies and what year. Economics-3. Then I realize I should be following structure -She has no rings but I then tell her the C vs u shaped smiles. She’s really into it. She asks me what kind of smile I have – I say I don’t know – I never really checked. I make intense eye contact with her while we speak – she has the most beautiful black eyes I have ever seen – but I didn’t tell her that. So then I say I am really in a hurry and I have to go. She says bye and goes. I say pleasure meeting you. Then I ask – hey – do you have email? She says yes – i hand her the phone. She comes back. I tell her : I don’t meet cute and open girls like her every day. Then she asks me if it’s not simpler if she gives me her number. I say ok. I give her my number she calls me. I then tell her the Names -> Show Stars routine. I associate her with Iulia Vantur she likes it. he negs me with my memory – I tell her I;m not talking to her anymore. She says why? I touch her then I ask her if she likes clubs. She says she hasn’t been to any because she wasn’t here for 3 months. I ask if she was in the US with W&T. She says no – but her colleague was. She asks me if i was – i confirm and also tell her that I was there with my current job. She says she likes being associated with Iulia Vantur – I say I have pictures with her because I knew the organizers at one concert then I tease her and say – You like to be associated with her because of how she looks, but do you want to be associated with all the drama – breakups with Moga, etc. I kino her more. She pulls away a bit. Then I say maybe she can come with my freinds to a club – she says soemthing but I cannot hear her because she already starts walking away. Then I say we’ll talk. Bye. She’s already away… ( Ended set on a lower note :( )

Good points: Intense Eye contact at one point. Number close. Kino. Forced myself to follow structure, but I lost it on the way :) .

Bad points: Body language slumped. Ended conversation on a low because she started walking away.

Where I lost the set: At the end – when I teased her about Iulia Vantur. However I closed her – so recovery is possible.

FR ATM

September 29, 2009 by timispy

FR 1. When I enter the ATM room at ING, I see HB_style ( TI-3) , she was just finishing withdrawing the cash. I went behind her – she left – I couldn’t make up my mind if I should approach her or not – because she was already leaving. She stopped before the door to fix something in her purse so I went and asked her – Hey, excuse me, I need a quick opinion. She looked at me. I had huge AA, and when I started delivering the opener one could hear it my trembling voice. I laughed but it was awkward. She said – sorry I cannot help you. So I continued – about the size of the sweater and she asked – since when do sweaters come in sizes? I said i know it’s M or S … She said something – exited and I  screamed ‘ Thanks’ .

Good points: I decided to open anyway. Despite having huge AA I tried to laugh and continue.

Bad points: I did not approach before she was at the door, so I went a bit after her. Eye contact. Body language. Not smiling at appoach. Saying “Excuse me”. No kino.

Where I lost the set: When I bumbled the beginning of the opener.

Possible solution: Memorize cashmere sweater opener to perfection, so I don’t have to think too much when delivering it.

Step Zero

September 21, 2009 by timispy

FR 0.

The Blog was still in foetus form, but I was already in the field. While buying a book ( John Gray – Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus ) to give as a present for my friend ( thanks Angelsin for the idea ), I fancied the bookshop assistent ( HB7, TI-1). First I fake taking something from her hair – she says she’s not surprised. I tease her that she did not know where the book was – if she sits there all day long doesn’t she have time to read? She says she reads literature. I ask her what’s the latest book she read – she gives me a Turkish writer’s name. I open a loop regarding the rings on her finger and tell her to finish packing the book first. She reminds me about what I was saying. I don’t do the ring finger routine but do rapport building when she tells me she works all weekend – and I tell her about how i worked a lot in the States. Then I have to go so I leave, come back ( false takeaway ) and ask her for the messenger id. The says “better not”. I hesitate … i ask her “come on” … “why not?” she hesitates and says: “really … no” . Her colleague was watching and some other guests. I smile, say ok, and leave.

Good points: I spoke very calmly, very composed and slow ( managed to hide anxiety ),teasing, open loop ( which never got exploited ), good grooming

Bad points: no real DHV … no real attraction and especially hesitation at the end. Also I did not befriend her colleague. She surely was influenced by the fact that he and other 2 people were watching. I was needy and did not make the appropriate eye contact. I think I also had leaned in towards her.

Where I lost the set: I tried to build artificial rapport instead of going into the ring finger routine. I also did not use any #close routine and I hesitated – I seemed very needy when I asked her for the id.

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FR 0,5

At my friend’s birthday party, I instantly flirted with the waitress (HB6, TI-2) – made intense eye contact and spoke very calmly and confidently. I was very picky but she seemed to like being nice to me. I kinoed her on her hand. When I sent her back with instructions, i looked deep into her eyes and asked calmly: “will you do that for me?” She smiled and said “of course”. During the evening she sat close to us, smoking and she heard the stories I was telling the group. She also heard a friend DHVing me.

When I left, she went in the opposite direction – I grabbed her hand and aksed her where she was going. Then I told her i liked that she was nice to me. I asked wow I can make it up to her. She said “By being nice to her”. I said – ok – what are you doing tomorrow – she was working. Monday? She was leaving. She told me to come to the bar she was working at on Tuesday. I said I don’t mix business with pleasure – so I told her i will call her and we’ll go out on Wednesday. She asked me – you already have my number? I said – no – you will give it to me now – handed her the phone. She looked into my eyes and hesitated … i was being needy. She said – what if I don’t want to give it to you? She looked in my eyes again. In the end she gave it to me. We exchanged names too. When I told her my name she said she already knew it(IOI). I said – you heard it from my friends… I like that… and left the bar.

Good points: Seductive eye contact ( at the beginning ), calm and confident voice tone ( at the beginning ), flirting, good grooming

Bad points: I hesitated at the and. I was needy. I got the # only because of the DHV of my friends.

Where I lost the set: – ( but I almost lost it when # closing because of my hesitation ).